this is no joke is ... By: MRUNSTOPABLE713. on 12 May 12, 14:44:28 this is no joke is trying to tell u that? we just invaded iraq for there fuckin oil bro
Awesome!? By: Totopols. on 08 May 12, 18:17:42 Awesome!?
Watch Zeightgeist ... By: 3275Dan. on 24 Apr 12, 01:45:37 Watch Zeightgeist and Loose change 2nd edition and you will learn that the goverments, central banks and religious institutions care nothing for the people or how much innocent blood is spilt in the name of power, money and divine pursuit. Guess what the best thing is for the central banks such as the federal reserve (nothing federal about it by the way), War, as this forces the goverment to loan more? money from the bank which they must pay back with interest, which creates more debt.
You mean Tim Ryan, ... By: dunkelfier. on 10 Apr 12, 11:17:41 You mean Tim Ryan, the guy who denied (despite this being true) that Bush's tax cuts led to job creation? The guy who criticized Bush's medicare bill was a lot more expensive than originally projected, yet voted in favor of Obamacare which is now projected to cost more than both wars combined? And Iraq would have been going great if it wasn't for those mindless savage suicide? bombers ruining everything (though Bush could have handled the war a lot better, he should have fired Rumsfeld earlier).
How about you ... By: ThatFatPlumber. on 10 Apr 12, 03:56:42 How about you listen to one of your own. Type this into youtube:
If? You're an American you should see THIS! for real
I don't know what ... By: dunkelfier. on 09 Apr 12, 02:02:23 I don't know what your 'DUNIR' point is, but my point? was, wouldn't it be easier to go ahead and drill anyway, despite the say of stupid hippie environmentalists, instead of invading another country? If you actually believe they made up the story about nuclear weapons just to invade Iraq for their oil...that really sounds like there's no basis in reality for it.
Haven't you ... By: ThatFatPlumber. on 09 Apr 12, 01:51:00 Haven't you answered that yourself "it's being blocked by? idiot environmental groups who don't realize that drilling for oil doesn't impact the environment at all". Oh and I have noticed you keep avoiding my point on the "DUNIR" it seems you have a gaping whole in your so called "research".
Again, if we care ... By: dunkelfier. on 09 Apr 12, 01:43:36 Again, if we care that much? about oil, why not just drill for it here?
(continued) DUNIR ... By: ThatFatPlumber. on 09 Apr 12, 01:33:36 (continued) DUNIR which would seriously affect? the U.S.A's industry. All we can be certain of is that America entered the war for purely selfish? reasons, and only brought up the freedom bullshit after they were caught out, and also because they new how ridiculously gullible the citizens of the United State of America are.
My apologies when i ... By: ThatFatPlumber. on 09 Apr 12, 01:32:45 My apologies when i said "weapons of mass destruction" I meant nuclear weapons which was what the American government meant as well. So yeah back to the main point the allies may not have invaded Iraq for there oil but its one of two most likely truths, it was either for the? oil or the devaluation of the (continued)
I do counter this ... By: dunkelfier. on 09 Apr 12, 01:20:41 I do counter this argument because there WERE weapons of mass destruction, just not nuclear ones (ask the Kurds, they'll tell you..well..the ones that didn't die from WMDs will). And yes, we DID attack Iraq in 1991 in Desert Storm. I was wrong, we didn't technically invade Iraq then, but we did attack them and kicked them out of Kuwait. I won't argue that the 2003 war was handled wrong, it was. But the decision to go to war given the intel we had at the? time was the right decision.
"we invaded Iraq in ... By: ThatFatPlumber. on 09 Apr 12, 01:05:39 "we invaded Iraq in 1991 because they in turn invaded Kuwait" that would be nice if it were true, but as we both know the reason for the war in Iraq was for Iraq having undeclared weapons of mass destruction, and that's a? fact that cannot not be disputed, but as the world now know there were no weapons of mass destruction, you have side stepped around this fact for far to long, counter this argument or shut the fuck up.
So 9/11 and the USS ... By: dunkelfier. on 09 Apr 12, 00:30:12 So 9/11 and the USS Cole and the? 1993 bombings were made up then? Yeah, we invaded Iraq in 1991 because they in turn invaded Kuwait. Does that make us evil?
(continued) You ... By: ThatFatPlumber. on 09 Apr 12, 00:06:31 (continued) You would know that? the terrorist groups never once targeted America or Britain untill there country was invaded.
Lol again you have ... By: ThatFatPlumber. on 09 Apr 12, 00:05:35 Lol again you have prooved to me that you are just another brain washed American blined by an exuse known as "they need democracy" perhaps that excue would have worked if the allies made that there cause for war from the start, but it wasnt go look back over your "research" (if it even exists) the allies claimed that iraq? had undeclaried weapons of mass destruction, now we know there were not and there hadnt been for over a decade, yes terrorism was bad but if you wernt such a moron (continued)
The world can laugh ... By: dunkelfier. on 08 Apr 12, 06:54:33 The world can laugh all they want, seeing as how I laugh back at them (I'm glad you used 'sinister blood lust in quotes'. The allied forces have never deliberately targeted innocent people (unlike suicide bombers who blow themselves up and kill civilians to create chaos and? prevent stability) so blame the terrorists, they're the ones screwing things up right now, not the United States. Of course as I've pointed out you haven't seen any of that in your research; it's all 'US bad terrorists good!'
And the world will ... By: ThatFatPlumber. on 08 Apr 12, 06:01:58 And the world will continue to laugh at? America and their "sinister blood lust". Oh and allied forces have actually killed millions of inocent people some that didnt even know that they were iraqies they died simply because they were born in iraq, so tell me was was Hussein realy the only evil party involved? I would like you to answer this question not simply side step as youve done with every single one of my points.
What's your ... By: dunkelfier. on 08 Apr 12, 05:47:41 What's your argument? That the US are war mongers? That WE'RE the evil ones? Sounds like a stupid, BS excuse to me. Do your own research on reality and return with a real argument bro. Until then, if you want to keep posting about how evil we are, be my guest; it's part of? free speech. But we will keep laughing at you.
Again with the ... By: ThatFatPlumber. on 08 Apr 12, 05:40:24 Again with the media argument, come back when you? have an actual argument not just more side steping.
Well if it makes ... By: dunkelfier. on 08 Apr 12, 05:23:00 Well if it makes you feel happy you can consider yourself the winner of whatever you want. Your 'argument' was nothing more than media talking points, and you didn't do any research on your own. If you want to consider yourself winner of knowing the most of what the media tells you, then I agree. You are the more knowledgeable of? the two of us in terms of what the media wants you to know. In terms for reality, that's another story...
Well if all you ... By: dunkelfier. on 08 Apr 12, 05:04:48 Well if all you have is what the popular media has to throw and nothing else than I pretty much am the winner of this debate. I like to keep things subjective, but I haven't heard anything debunking what I said about Iraq and how it would be better if it wasn't for the mindless savage suicide bombers over? there because you know I'm right (though many morons try to clam 'oh if the US wasn't over there they wouldn't be blowing themselves up'. Screw terrorists and anyone who hates freedom.
Again you side ... By: ThatFatPlumber. on 08 Apr 12, 04:52:12 Again you side step? my arguments, so in your words "I do consider myself the winner of this debate".
Well, he should ... By: dunkelfier. on 08 Apr 12, 04:46:07 Well, he should have co-operated with the UN and not given funds to families of suicide bombers. Oh, he also would have been better off if he didn't kill millions of his own people. Fact it, the UN didn't do crap to stop him, and now things in Iraq are better than they were under Hussein. Or, they would be if we didn't have suicide bomber savages killing civilians over there (actually, even? with those losers things are still better). Blame terrorists, not the US.
I know? what Saddam ... By: ThatFatPlumber. on 08 Apr 12, 04:40:56 I know? what Saddam Hussein did but, there were no nuclear weapons involved so the U.S.A had no right to invade as that was the declared reason.
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